Daily Dial #108 – Two Win Bets at Doncaster and Salisbury

Howling Saturday. Boston Day, the 80/1 shot, gave us our best run and he could only manage 12th after missing the break. For one who wanted to go forward, he did well for having effectively blown all chance from the start. The other two have firm lines put through them on a day to forget. Feel like that should be a learning curve for me, as the day felt tough and I went too hard (albeit that’s very easily said with hindsight), and compared to Friday, which felt like a sweeter day going into it, yesterday feels like it was a kick waiting to happen.

The game is best spent picking your battles, and I think yesterday was probably starting a fight out of my weight, where a flurry of minimum bets would’ve sufficed at best. I have always said there is as much to learn from the losers as there is from the winners, more so if anything, so taking reflection on them and taking what we can is key. A couple of decent cards today which give reason to be entertained whilst we wait what feels like an eternity for the daily dose of the World Cup and these late kick-offs – not a fan. Two nice chances on the day with one backed on a pedigree angle and one who was a major notebook entry on last run.


Silks
Dream Vega
Doncaster · 14:30
4/1 2pt Win
TrainerEd Walker
JockeyGeorge Downing
SP9/2
Result2/12 btn nk | -2pts

Prominent, briefly led over 1f out, headed inside final furlong, kept on final 110yds, just held

Silks
Suhub
Salisbury · 16:22
8/1 2pt Win
TrainerJames Owen
JockeyMason Paetel
SP5/1
Result8/10 btn 15L | -2pts

Never better than midfield


DREAM VEGA looks a sure-fire improver for the Ed Walker 2TO angle. She’s a full sister to Dreamloper — the Group 1 winner rated 121 who did her winning from 7f to a mile. Their dam, Livia’s Dream, is some producer: an AEI (Average Earning Index) of 6.34, with a string of winners under her. The pick of them is Santorini Star, who won 7 of her 11 (64%) and reached Group 2 level over a mile-and-a-half-plus, and Dreamasar, 3 from 5. The thread running through the lot, and the negative against today, is that they improve with time and want a trip — the dam’s average winning distance is 10.3f, and the good ones have all done their best work from a mile upwards. Dream Vega has just the one run behind her, a green enough 4th over 7f at Salisbury where she got unbalanced when asked to quicken but showed plenty. The Ed Walker yard are in great form, notching 8 winners from their last 33. The 7f could be on the sharp side of where she ultimately wants, but her full-sister Dreamloper and half-sister Dreamrocker (by Fastnet Rock) both shed their maiden tag over 7f and were trained by Ed Walker, improving significantly for beaten debuts. 2pt Win @ 4/1 (generally available).

Latterly goes SUHUB for James Owen, who was a big eyecatcher for me on stable debut, and no sooner had I started looking at her than I wondered how she had escaped my attention on the day. She was sent off a 20/1 chance for her first start since leaving William Haggas, running off an attractive mark of 69 despite showing a good level of form in novice company, despite always looking like wanting further and she was the only runner to make any progress from off the pace in a race dominated by those prominent. The Shadwell stud filly is nicely bred, by 2020 Sussex Stakes winner Mohaather and out of the multiple Group 1 winner Nazeef, who won 7 of her 11 starts. The race doesn’t look the deepest, with the favourite an untrustworthy type in Criminal, who we’ve been stung on previously and who is 0/13 despite numerous chances going begging. The main danger in the race for me is David Simcock’s King’s Castle, who tends to improve for a reappearance run yet put a big bid in LTO on the back of a 218-day break and remains on a good mark. I’ve stuck with Suhub hoping her pedigree outclasses them here. 2pt Win @ 8/1 (generally available).

Others to note: Tiger (6/4, Doncaster 14:00), Diamond Necklace (4/6, Chantilly 15:05), Weekend Roar (8/1, Salisbury 15:14), Alpha Capture (4/1, Doncaster 16:05), Berry Clever (9/2, Doncaster 16:40) and Kamaway (85/40, Salisbury 16:57).

Good luck to all getting involved. Be Lucky!

Scott
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